Click here to join the 'Now There’s a T H O U G H T' bar! Ok, so it’s not a bar, it’s a space graciously provided by the Faraday Institute for Science and Religion but it contains drinks and good company so it’s close enough. My name is Louise and I am your podcast host. I am joined by Pastor Andy Waddams of Gallery Church in Birmingham and marine biologist Cara Parrett to talk turtles, toddlers and teenagers. Let’s grab a seat, though I’m afraid you’ll have to buy your own drink…

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